Sault Fire Dept. doesn’t Comply with Standards

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The Sault Ste. Marie fire department is currently operating below The National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) standards.

The NFPA is an international organization of more than 75,000 individuals and more than 80 national trade and professional organizations. NFPA’s mission is to reduce the worldwide burden of fire and other hazards on the quality of life by developing and advocating scientifically based consensus codes and standards, research, training and education.

NFPA develops, publishes and disseminates timely consensus codes and standards intended to minimize the possibility and effects of fire and other risks. More than 300 NFPA codes and standards are used around the world. NFPA documents are developed by more than 225 NFPA Technical Committees, each representing a balance of affected interests.

NFPA codes and standards, developed under the approved process of the American National Standards Institute (ANSI), are widely used as a basis of legislation and regulation at all levels of government. In some way, virtually every building, process, service, design and installation is affected by codes and standards developed through NFPAs process.

Our fire department is currently operating with at times 3 firefighters per truck. Also our response time of 4-6 minutes falls below the guidelines. This is not what are in the NFPAs guidelines. Here they are below:

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18 COMMENTS

  1. The sad part of this whole fiasco is that council is not taking the mayor and chief to task for misleading, misinforming and literally lying to the public on issues like these.
    The fire chief has been spewing BS to us since he got here.
    He’s lied about the recruitment process, ems response times, fire models, moving into town, fire response capabilities and the list goes on.
    Rumours of this chief wearing medals he did not earn and billing the city for attending this year’s chief convention which he wasn’t even registered in all smell of corruption behind city hall’s closed doors.

  2. Yea. Standards set by the fire fighters’ union, of course. With most homes having smoke detectors/fire alarms, and built from fire-resistant materials, and ONLY SO MANY TAX DOLLARS TO GO AROUND, rather than have a fire hall on every second corner of the town, I would rather have more medically-equipped ambulances being first responders.

    • You can read up here http://www.nfpa.org/about-nfpa/nfpa-overview/history-of-nfpa and learn how the NFPA came about if you want to know the history of the Association. As far as homes that are built from Fire resistant materials, I wonder if you live in a home that will not burn. If so, you are one special person. Do you know how many firefighters are on duty at this very moment? Do you actually know anything about fire or are you trying to put two sides against each other with your reference to the EMS service?

      • Hey SafeCity, go ask Wynn tomorrow for a bag of cash when she is here, because that’s what this is all about. Union rhetoric at it’s finest…

        • So no interest in facts. You could be on City Council yourself Bernie. Thanks for reading the comments regardless.

    • NFPA standards are not determined by the unions. They are determined using scientific research, lessons from past incidents, and real life applications. And, it doesn’t matter one bit if your community has many or few fires. When a fire occurs, and it will, the effectiveness of fire operations and the safety/well-being of the public directly correlates with the number of firefighters available and their department’s ability to deploy them efficiently. Decreased staffing and poor equipment guarantee a poor outcome.

  3. Ok, but if you follow this standard then the city also needs an advanced care paramedic truck on the road at all times also, which many cities across Ontario do not have, so then we can now start arguing that the city fire department, and the DSSAB are “failing” to provide the residents of the community adequate paramedic coverage… The reality is this ongoing battle continues to be fuelled by the firefighters using “public safety at risk” as a way to put fear into the community. The city would never put its citizens at risk, lets be real here, the chief would have had to present a comprehensive analysis, to make the changes and for council to approve them, and the NFPA standards are just recommended guidelines and do not factor in all the variables for each individual community..

    • If an Advanced Care Paramedic truck should be on the road then that’s what you should be pushing for. Why not work towards that? The Chief did not provide a Comprehensive Risk Assessment! The Firefighters asked at the very beginning for a Comprehensive Risk Assessment and the City of Sault Ste Marie refused this. Why? A 1989 assessment was completed and recommendations were made then but ignored as well. Why? Is there some level of responsibility that should be taken here? This has never been a question of EMS requiring more paramedics and ambulances on the road, in fact the Firefighters agreed that EMS was understaffed, so, I’m not quite sure what your issue is with the Firefighters wanting to work safely and wanting to provide a safe service for the citizens of Sault Ste Marie.

  4. What a joke!!! How much is the city going to cut back to save a few bucks? Taking out traffic lights which has already caused accidents, the conditions on the roads in town are trashy…sirens constantly going off to remind how corrupted this town is with drugs and violence. The justice system here is like watching an episode of the Benny Hill Show. Now our standards are below normal for our fire dept? GG city council!! I can see a city wide revolt due to the way people are running this city. Thank god for Pokemon Go least its the only thing atm that brings the city together. Sault Ste. Marie the new Elliot Lake!!

    • I highly recommend you get your facts straight before assuming that the city would never put citizens at risk cause that’s exactly what they are doing. When they are calling in guys to man a truck because the others are at a fire they are not calling in enough. That leaves one truck with too few guys to cover ALL of Sault Ste Marie. How is that not putting ppl’s lives at stake? It’s all about the all mighty $.

  5. Well, Saultonline has shown us this chief, on video, saying “after 2 minutes firefighters can’t save anybody”. Why would anyone expect him to adhere to national standards?

  6. It is so clear that council and the fire chief has out for the fire department and it has become personal. At some point council has an obligation to our city to provide our residents with fire protection that follows codes and standards. By not doing so, they put our community at risk. NFPA codes are used to create building codes, fire codes, and many other codes and standards. If they are not choosing to follow these national standards and the chief is able to spew lies, they are playing Russian roulette. Maybe its time that council should start being more transparent with there constituents and if not they should resign from thier position as they are not looking out for the best interest of our citizens. It is great that the media is providing the readers with some insight into the reality of what is really happening.

  7. Write the fire chief and let him know of your discontent with this and his looking at closing Tancred Hall also this guy is off his rocker just like wynne

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